
Steph Farnsworth and Jack Sargeant look at whether Hermann Tilke is as bad as he is made out to be.
Steph Farnsworth
Turkey has the epic turn eight, there just isn’t a corner that really offers as much as that masterpiece. Eau Rouge and Bridge were great once, but now they don’t offer a challenge for the drivers. The G-force at that corner at Istanbul really puts the car and driver through their paces though.
Singapore may be known for its scandal than design but it is a tough street circuit and combined with the usual humidity it doesn’t make life easy for the drivers. It’s hard and exhausts them which is how I want it to be.
It’s pretty easy to say Valencia is dire and has no overtaking but look at GP2 races where they have plenty of action at that venue. That says more about the cars than the quality of the tracks.
Admittedly, Tilke’s visions are generally very stop-and-start but when asked about overtaking the drivers do say straights and then a hairpin can produce the better racing. F1 goes to some epic and historic tracks like Monza, Silverstone and Monaco but last year they were the most boring races. Everyone hailed the return of Suzuka and it is an awe-inspiringly good track but Fuji produced the better entertainment even after Tilke got his hands on it.
Who can forget last year when Felipe Massa and Lewis Hamilton both went into self-destruct mode and were handed drive-throughs so they had to try to fight back while Alonso romped to victory and Kubica put in a stunning performance for second place? Or even the year before with the Brazilian and Robert Kubica scrapping it out in the wet?
Plenty of fans harp on about tradition but every venue has to start somewhere and has to build some history so the least we can do is give them a chance. As for traditional tracks, half of them have been forced to have chicanes put in so they are rarely as iconic as they once were (take Estoril and Imola for example).
I don’t see the problem with moving outside of Europe. OK, when you look around the area then sand can be boring and seem a slightly sterile environment but the fact that F1 can expand into new territory is a really good sign of health for the sport. If F1 wants to be the pinnacle of motorsport in the world then it can’t become Eurocentric. If there is a lack of fans at some venues then more can be done to drum up interest but it’s always going to difficult to get fans as passionate as the ones in Interlagos at a place with little history and tickets at high prices.
Tilke also has to contend with a fairly lengthy list of rules from the FIA regarding track design. A track that looks like the love child of Spa and Suzuka is never going to happen because of the restrictions when it comes to design, not because of the designer.
No track is perfect and the German hasn’t always offered us the best –China is woeful- but when you see the beauty of Turkey, watch the battles at Bahrain and the top class facilities then you know it isn’t a disaster story. If the tracks are bad it’s mainly because the rules aren’t flexible at all, there’s little room for an epic dream course. Perhaps a different designer should get chance just so things don’t feel repetitive but looking at what Hermann has to deal with, I’d say he’s doing a good job.
Jack Sargeant
While I admit, most of Tilke’s tracks are visually spectacular, with the hotel in Abu Dhabi, and the colourful run-off areas in Bahrain, but they just don’t produce the same exciting racing.
Tilke understands racing, having competed in touring cars and endurance car racing, and spent a lot of his career racing on the infamous Nordschleife circuit. It is ironic therefore that his circuits seem to lack the challenge and passion of the great German track.
There is no doubt Tilke is limited by the rules, but there is still no excuse for some of the circuits he has produced. Valencia for example, is an absolute shambles. In the 2 years there have been Grands Prix held on the street circuit in Spain, there have been just 5 overtakes! And the less said about his circuits in Malaysia, China, Fuji and Bahrain the better.
Circuits should be fast, sweeping, narrow, challenging, have some gradient, with fans close to the action and not so stop-start! One of my favourite circuits is Laguna Seca in America, now watch the video below, and tell me, why don’t we have a GP there, why don’t we have corners like the ‘corkscrew’ in F1!?
It is a nigh-on impossible task to recreate the atmosphere of Monza with it’s hundreds of thousands of screaming Tifosi, overnight, but an exciting track would no doubt drum up more passion for motorsport in the areas where the circuits are virtually dead – there should be no empty seats at the pinnicle of motorsport, and I believe that Bernie Ecclestone should forgo a fraction of his profit to cheapen tickets, therefore filling more seats in the grandstands.
Tilke, on occasion, has proved he can design a circuit well, with tracks like Suzuka and Istanbul, but his major problem is that his circuits are monopolising F1, and the majority of them are bland, soulless and boring. I think the FIA need to find the right balance and do not let the German’s tracks take over the sport.
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I agree, Laguna Seca is a great circuit and it would be fantastic to see F1 there, but there wouldn't be more than 5 overtaking moves in two years there either. The double diffuser ruined any hopes of the recent rule changes making following any easier, and if you can see that in Bahrain then you'd see it even moreso at Laguna, where you need the downforce to do any speed around those long medium to high speed corners. Following another car through those and you'd be dropping tenths if not seconds.
Istanbul is one of my absolute favourite circuits, so I am slightly biased, but by and large I really approve of what Tilke does. I'dlike us to get to a point where we needed fewer straights into hairpins, but with the turbulence the way it is braking after a straight is the best hope for overtaking currently. Perhaps when the diffuser goes next season these tracks could start to show up their real weaknesses.
Singapore I like; China I am a fan of although agree that the racing there isn't the best; Malaysia is a bit weak, but the real problem is what they've done to Sakhir. It was a good circuit before, that run down off-camber to the hairpin and onto the back straight was a great section before they stuck in all that weird slow stuff before it.
As I say, I think Tilke gets an awful hard rap, based on what a poor job Mosley and Ecclestone have done on the rules front, with the aim of improving the racing as well. Allowing the double diffuser after trying to ban turbulence-inducing aero packages and removing refuelling and encouraging tyres that last a whole race, when they at least added another variable – a chance for a bad stop or people on different fuel levels – seems to me to be what is really to blame, not these tracks that, as Steph points out with Valencia, have provided great racing in other formula that rely less on aerodynamics, or more on ground-effect at any rate.
"Tilke, on occasion, has proved he can design a circuit well, with tracks like Suzuka and Istanbul"
Tilke didn't design Suzuka, that was John Hugenholtz. He also designed original Hockenheim. So he knew his stuff, basically…
@Dickie, Suzuka underwent a transformation and redesign by Tilke in 07/08.
Tilke isn’t ruining F1, the cars are ruining it. We can have great racing, need to just let the cars follow eachother
Hermann deserves all he gets. Yes safety should be improved, but not at the cost of the soul. Nordschleife is a epic track, but like old roads they are the result of necessity and not design. They built it like that because they couldn’t flatten the land. I’ve been a big racing nut since I was a kid. I enjoy racing simulators, I don’t enjoy Hermann’s tracks. It’s like driving in a car park, slow twisty corners, small straight, followed by more boring twisty corners. He has no corners the reward risky behaviour. I do think the new Hockenheim is good, but not as good as the old one. We all know the classic F1 tracks, but here is a quick list of some amazing tracks that Hermann should go visit.
Zolder- The only track I can think of that the chicanes actually made it better.
Österreichring- Off camber corners and fast flowing.
Mosport- Like the Österreichring, but faster.
Okayama/TI Circuit Aida- Catalunya meets Suzuka
Zandvoort- Has that old 70s feel to it.
Road America- America’s answer to Hockenheim
Road Atlanta- Much like Mosport and Road America
Jerez- It looks like Sepang on paper, but it isn’t
Zhuhai- A real circuit in China
Masaryk/Bruno- Spa like circuit
Enna/Pergusa- Flat out fun
Tilke’s tracks I;ve sen in formula lacks the variety and flow an individuality of the traditional tracks, like having Macdonalds, pretty much the same result for every country, the corners are particular frustrating to watch…jus look at Fuji, Turkey, Shanghai..
I agree with the assessment that given what rules he has to follow he has designed some decent tracks but there are a few duds too. I don’t think it’s a good idea to let him design every track. Certainly there are other designers that might have a fresh idea or two. In a sense it’s like having the same person design all the cars and we don’t want F1 to be a spec series do we? Also, a new track in Austin will be cool if it happens but I really wish they would use one of the great tracks that are already in the states like Laguna Seca, Road America, or Road Atlanta but that would never happen. I think the fees are a too outrageous and will be the undoing of the sport if they aren’t reigned in. How anyone can justify spending hundreds of millions on a track and then tens of millions every year in sanctioning fees (and no guarantee beyond maybe a decade of use) is beyond me but I guess that’s another conversation.
Steph, I totally agree with your argument, as i do with John’s. I also have been a F1 fanatic ever since I was given F1 97 on playstation for christmas. The tracks of today have no enjoyment for fans and lack heart-stopping racing, unlike the tracks of the past which would be totally worth waking up for at 2am here in Australia to watch. Having constantly played racing simulators, the lack of difficulty I find in the current tracks is slightly disturbing especially as many of the ones i find distaste in are the Hermann Tilke ones. We need to probably look at going back to some of the older tracks, many of the ones John stated but also tracks like Imola, Magny-Cours and Estoril. Hermann Tilke’s circuits have a similar feel and look to them and lack free flowing racing that we are dying to see, though it isn’t being helped with the constant changes to the cars. Hopefully, Jean Todt will do something about it in the years to come.
I cannot but partly blame Tilke for the design of new F1 tracks. Surely the rules put in place by Ecclestone does not help him at all, but I haven’t seen a single long sweeping corner in any of the Tilke designed circuits. They all look very similar and boring at their best, and as “AI” said before it feels like McDonalds around the world, the same colour, flavour and shape. Boring. Should give a chance to other people to come in and design new tracks, I haven’t seen any new circuit that even comes close to the likes of old Imola (before Tamburello chicane), old super fast Hockenheim or Monza or even a nice street circuit like Adelaide (Melbourne is not half the fun of it)!
Well I also don’t blame Tilke very much, the cars have lost their incredible ways too. I miss the God like V12 and screaming V10s! However Tilke tore away my favourite race track ever, Hockenheimring. It will never be as it once was. Even though they had to redesign the cicuit. I don’t understand why they had to tare away all the track. Anyways, My advice to Tilke is to look at other race tracks other than the Nordscheliefe. Because when you design all race tracks the same there a lack of taste and free flowing curves like Spa, Siverstone, and Monza. Please we need to have the real F1 back! Oh and bring back the Old Hockenheim Circut!