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		<title>By: NFNiTM</title>
		<link>http://www.anf1blog.com/2010/07/ferrari-get-away-with-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-7721</link>
		<dc:creator>NFNiTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....you clearly do not know what your on about</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.you clearly do not know what your on about</p>
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		<title>By: JamesC1991</title>
		<link>http://www.anf1blog.com/2010/07/ferrari-get-away-with-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-7660</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesC1991</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Title sums it all up.Alonso is a tarnish on this sport and Massa should have had some balls and told Ferrari to stick it where the sun don&#039;t shine like a real Top driver would have.Seamus unlike 1998 Team Orders were not banned,yet again Ferrari&#039;s best friends make sure they get away with it,Ferrari really are a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves.They Should be thrown out of the 2010 Season and Alonso has now ruined 3 teams because he hates a teammate who can challenge him and is scared of the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title sums it all up.Alonso is a tarnish on this sport and Massa should have had some balls and told Ferrari to stick it where the sun don&#8217;t shine like a real Top driver would have.Seamus unlike 1998 Team Orders were not banned,yet again Ferrari&#8217;s best friends make sure they get away with it,Ferrari really are a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves.They Should be thrown out of the 2010 Season and Alonso has now ruined 3 teams because he hates a teammate who can challenge him and is scared of the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team orders have been a part of F1 forever, and will continue to be... rule or no rule. Is everyone new to the sport? I watched McLaren &#039;tweak&#039; the cars of Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna from pit lane via telemetry to dictate winner and second place. Wake up and get over it. The Ferrari&#039;s were the fastest 2 cars at Hockenheim period. The move should have been done in a more discreet fashion, and I am sure Will be given a similar situation in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team orders have been a part of F1 forever, and will continue to be&#8230; rule or no rule. Is everyone new to the sport? I watched McLaren &#8216;tweak&#8217; the cars of Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna from pit lane via telemetry to dictate winner and second place. Wake up and get over it. The Ferrari&#8217;s were the fastest 2 cars at Hockenheim period. The move should have been done in a more discreet fashion, and I am sure Will be given a similar situation in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Seamus Cascarino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seamus Cascarino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Sorry, while I detest that Massa had to move over, I&#039;m frankly surprised at the resultant outrage, it&#039;s all the more funny when McLaren comes out with their &quot;We Dont Do Team Orders&quot; Bit. Staunch McLaren fan that I am, I cant overlook Australia 98 or Heikki constantly having to deal with the worse strategy which invariably put him behind Hamilton. I can Understand why Button and Hamilton are going on - they&#039;re trying to lay the groundwork so as to make sure that they can race if things get down to the wire between them, but Whitmarsh really has me confused. While Ferrari could&#039;ve handled the situation better (Pre-race &quot;Gentlemans Agreement&quot; Anyone?) , I cannot in good conscience jump on the bandwagon to criticize them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Sorry, while I detest that Massa had to move over, I&#8217;m frankly surprised at the resultant outrage, it&#8217;s all the more funny when McLaren comes out with their &#8220;We Dont Do Team Orders&#8221; Bit. Staunch McLaren fan that I am, I cant overlook Australia 98 or Heikki constantly having to deal with the worse strategy which invariably put him behind Hamilton. I can Understand why Button and Hamilton are going on &#8211; they&#8217;re trying to lay the groundwork so as to make sure that they can race if things get down to the wire between them, but Whitmarsh really has me confused. While Ferrari could&#8217;ve handled the situation better (Pre-race &#8220;Gentlemans Agreement&#8221; Anyone?) , I cannot in good conscience jump on the bandwagon to criticize them.</p>
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		<title>By: steph90</title>
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		<dc:creator>steph90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They should be disqualified from the championship.&quot;

It&#039;s Ferrari, it won&#039;t happen and it would ruin part of the appeal of this year&#039;s fight. Mclaren only were for a spy scandal, this is nowhere near as bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They should be disqualified from the championship.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Ferrari, it won&#8217;t happen and it would ruin part of the appeal of this year&#8217;s fight. Mclaren only were for a spy scandal, this is nowhere near as bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferrari Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferrari Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is &#039;team orders&#039; different than &#039;saving fuel mode&#039; or &#039;reving down&#039; an engine or &#039;switching wings&#039; for the same purpose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is &#8216;team orders&#8217; different than &#8216;saving fuel mode&#8217; or &#8216;reving down&#8217; an engine or &#8216;switching wings&#8217; for the same purpose?</p>
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		<title>By: wasiF1</title>
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		<dc:creator>wasiF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should be disqualified from the championship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should be disqualified from the championship.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. The way I see it, $100k is a pretty substantial fine. But essentially that&#039;s pocket money for teams like this. So they don&#039;t mind &#039;spending&#039; that money in order for them to have the &#039;right driver win the race&#039;. Perhaps a zero cash penalty, and a full points penalty would be much better. 

Perhaps the drivers themselves could take no penalty, but Ferrari could cop a constructor&#039;s disqualification? 

I was intrigued by what the commentators had to say. A number of times I heard the phrase, &quot;I don&#039;t know what&#039;s in the contract,&quot; which leads me to believe that after Alonso&#039;s spat with McLaren and Hamilton, his legal team made sure he would always be negotiated in the number 1 spot, rather than allowing for an open-team, like the Silver cars have.

Although, this doesn&#039;t always work, as we saw open racing turn into chaos earlier this year between the Red Bulls, which has led media to speculate that more may be going on there than actually is. 

The question I think that needs asking is, would you feel satisfied if your teammate had handed you victory? I&#039;d feel robbed. That&#039;s not an achievement. You&#039;d have to be an immoral sack of cheatbag to smile and be proud of yourself after a farce like that. 

That&#039;s why I&#039;m sick of Fernando.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. The way I see it, $100k is a pretty substantial fine. But essentially that&#8217;s pocket money for teams like this. So they don&#8217;t mind &#8216;spending&#8217; that money in order for them to have the &#8216;right driver win the race&#8217;. Perhaps a zero cash penalty, and a full points penalty would be much better. </p>
<p>Perhaps the drivers themselves could take no penalty, but Ferrari could cop a constructor&#8217;s disqualification? </p>
<p>I was intrigued by what the commentators had to say. A number of times I heard the phrase, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s in the contract,&#8221; which leads me to believe that after Alonso&#8217;s spat with McLaren and Hamilton, his legal team made sure he would always be negotiated in the number 1 spot, rather than allowing for an open-team, like the Silver cars have.</p>
<p>Although, this doesn&#8217;t always work, as we saw open racing turn into chaos earlier this year between the Red Bulls, which has led media to speculate that more may be going on there than actually is. </p>
<p>The question I think that needs asking is, would you feel satisfied if your teammate had handed you victory? I&#8217;d feel robbed. That&#8217;s not an achievement. You&#8217;d have to be an immoral sack of cheatbag to smile and be proud of yourself after a farce like that. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m sick of Fernando.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ryland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Ryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like Massa and what Ferrari did was not only cruel to Massa but it was cruel to the sport. I know circumstances are different but was it not McLaren were given a £100m fine for putting the sport into disrepute? in this instance, a fine is not adequate, there must be a penalty where either alonso loses his win, or Ferrari have their constructor points taken off them. A penalty only consisting of a fine would be dreadful for the sport, especially when it&#039;s only 100k, which is just change for ferrari!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like Massa and what Ferrari did was not only cruel to Massa but it was cruel to the sport. I know circumstances are different but was it not McLaren were given a £100m fine for putting the sport into disrepute? in this instance, a fine is not adequate, there must be a penalty where either alonso loses his win, or Ferrari have their constructor points taken off them. A penalty only consisting of a fine would be dreadful for the sport, especially when it&#8217;s only 100k, which is just change for ferrari!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Sargeant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Sargeant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha indeed! Buemi wins in Hungary with Massa close 2nd. Suits me :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha indeed! Buemi wins in Hungary with Massa close 2nd. Suits me <img src='http://www.anf1blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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